Beginning in 2007, foreclosures rocked the real estate world. Like an out-of-control freight train, they began decimating the market, peaking in 2009. Myths and rumorsbegan propagating like mushrooms as consumers struggled to understand the new reality. Although many misconceptions have come and gone, we still encounter five myths on a regular basis.
1. There is going to be a flood of new foreclosures to the market.
This rumor has appeared every year since 2008 and has been routinely debunked. However, recent announcements that the Feds reached a settlement over the robo-signing scandal have reignited speculation. The idea is simple: Since the cork is now out of the foreclosure bottle, we’ll soon see another flood of REOs inundating the marketplace.
My personal opinion: don’t hold your breath.
Banks have learned that if they control inventory, they can affect local prices. By releasing homes in measured amounts, they realize higher prices than if they released a glut of homes. In addition, they’ve learned that if they can mitigate their losses by agreeing to a short sale, everyone wins.
2. You can go directly to a bank to buy a foreclosure.
Every few weeks I’m asked how to buy foreclosures direct from a bank. Someone knows a friend being foreclosed on and they want to step in and grab the house before it hits the market. Don’t we all? In reality, banks have a simple system – they first offer properties on the courthouse steps. The rest they assign to asset mangers who then hire local real estate agents to put them on the market along with all the other homes. Want an REO? Pay cash at the courthouse steps or get in line witheveryone else when they hit the local MLS (Multiple Listing Service).
3. You can get a killer deal by submitting lowball offers on foreclosures.
You would think this myth would be dead by now. Unfortunately, like Elvis sightings, it just won’t go away. Here’s the truth: Banks want REOs sold in 30 days or less, so they typically appear on the market priced slightly under comparable properties. If the property doesn’t sell quickly, the bank will lower the price after about 30 days. Lowball offers are ignored and are, quite frankly, a waste of everyone’s time and effort. You might get a deal by offering a lower price on a foreclosure that’s been sitting on the market for more than 90 days, but remember that there are good reasons it’s gone unsold for so long. And even if you have cash, your lowball offer won’t be accepted —seriously.
4. You can’t use foreclosures when doing an appraisal.
Or short sales, for that matter. That is no longer true. In fact, in many neighborhoods, that’s all that’s there. Therefore, foreclosed or distressed sales represent the actual value of homes in the area and HAVE to be used to appraise other properties. Don’t like it? Get over it. Times have changed and the ways neighborhoods are valued have changed as well.
5. Foreclosures are only affecting the bottom end of the market.
This used to be true. However, while foreclosure rates on the lower end of the market have actually decreased, they’re actually increasing on the upper end. According to Daren Blomquist, vice president of RealtyTrac, the market share of foreclosed homes under $1 million is shrinking, but those among properties valued over $1 million are rising – up 115% since 2007. And foreclosures on properties valued upwards of $2 million have increased by 273%. While some well-known jet-setters have melted down and lost everything, others are choosing to strategically default. They see it like liquidating a poorly performing portfolio – they have enough resources to cut their losses and move on. Historically, banks have been reticent to foreclose high-end homes and absorb a large loss, but defaulters are now forcing their hands and mansion foreclosure rates are moving on up.
Myths control behavior, and this has never been truer than in the housing market. Savvy agents will work hard to educate their clients, debunk myths, explain market trends, educate with solid facts – and actually close transactions.


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Excellent article…do I have permission to put this on my blog?? Or on my facebook business page?
Joanne, we’d really appreciate the social share. If you’d like to post it on your blog we just ask that you give Carl the byline credit and feature a link to the original post. Thanks.
Excellent Carl!
There’s been so much media hype and misinformation about buying foreclosure “50% off”, that in many ways today’s home buyers are the most mis-educated group ever.
Banks have a vested interest in controlling the inventory and prices and to release a flood of homes or to take every lowball offer, would have them scurrying back for more bailout funds.
Couldn’t have said it better Carl~ thanks!
I don’t think Short Sales are the answer for Banks nor do they represent the best interest of the Bank. I’m at the front lines of this situation in Colorado and could provide some clear cut examples that I face. If interested, please email algollas@hotmail.com.
Outstanding! You are so very right on all points. Thank you. Tt
While I agree with these myths as statements alone, the verbiage ‘…releasing homes in measured amounts, they realize higher prices than if they released a glut…’ can be misleading to some. It is important that sellers understand there will be downward pressure on their homes as a result of the mortgage settlement. How much can be argued, as ‘real estate is local’, but not that there will be no effect to pricing as myth #4 illustrates.
Realtors would be doing their clients a disservice not to present this cause and effect.
Thanks for this post!! Buyer’s all want everything for nothing and who would blame them, but they have to realize the banks have already discounted the properties below market value in some instances. And seller’s need to realize that foreclosures are OUR market, therefore their homes will be appraised accordingly. Your article reiterated the points I share with buyers and sellers.
I actually disagree that banks discount their foreclosed properties. I have seen quite a few overpriced forclosed properties, and Banks do not list them for less than what other properties are selling for unless they make no repairs and the property is in really bad shape. I do think that this is a very good article.
@Roseann Hildum:
Very true that there are REOs out there that are overpriced – we are seeing this the most with HomePath properties – as you know, these don’t require an appraisal if you get the loan through them, so there is no audit control preventing a buyer from paying too much. They are VERY unwilling to bring their prices within market guidelines. This also frustrates REO agents handling Fannie Mae properties – I’ve talked to a number of them – they realize the homes are priced too high but FM won’t budge until they’ve been on the market a long time.
Overall, asset managers tend to price their listings a hair under the market to get a quick sale. A hair.
Excellent article as I have had so many clients ask if I know some special way to buy directly from the banks. When I describe the courthouse steps route, I have very few takers.
Excellent post. Most notably the reference to whether or not short sales and foreclosures can be used in an appraisal. I remember back in mid-2008 when that edict was put forth, I came home and called every banker that I knew to find out if it was true . . . and by golly, it was! My job just got harder by having to advise my clients of the affects of the local short sales and foreclosures would have on their house value. It’s really a sad state of affairs, when u consider that when applying for a TAX REDUCTION, counties DO NOT acknowledge the short sales and foreclosures. Anyone see anything wrong with that picture? . . . . when I learned of that I stood up on a tax appeal seminar and said “hey, if appraisals must include the short sales and foreclosures” when are the counties and towns would do the same . . . to which the attorney responded “not anytime soon.” Sad, very sad as if affects us all!
Excellent article on the current foreclosure market…even for Florida! Straight forward regarding educating buyers on short sales and foreclosures!
Probably the most-accurate article I’ve ever read on foreclosures.
Excellent Information! I am sending this to a few of my clients!
Well done great article put it right up on twitter and FB.
I would add how new home sales are effecting comps. This needs to be addressed. Even in Las Vegas the new home sales are doing really well.
Spoken like a true realtor.
I wholeheartedly disagree with the idea that banks would rather negotiate a short sale than foreclose on a home. In our area – NW Iowa – we have seen several short sales drag on for months with perfectly reasonable offers on them, and then go into foreclosure. When they come back on the market, they are priced below the initial offer. Short sales are a nightmare for everyone involved, and no bank that I’ve ever dealt with has ever indicated that they care one way or the other if the home is foreclosed on – or for that matter – how much money they eventually recovered on the property.
I understand your frustration – we’ve seen some of these as well. It totally depends on the situation of the owner. In many cases, if it’s a second home or part of a portfolio, the bank treats it completely different than if it’s a primary owner-occupied home.
It also depends on:
(1) The lender servicing the loan
(2) Who actually holds the paper for the note
(3) Whether PMI is involved
(4) Whether or not the owner refi’d a number of times, purchased a Cabo San Lucas time share, big boat, Beemer, etc.
(5) Sunspots.
We’ve closed MANY short sales in all kinds of circumstances and have attained a high degree of cooperation from most lenders. There are a few, however, that we hope to never deal with again – ING is at the top of our “bad” list. On our last transaction with them, they would not cooperate in any way AND, when we tried to bump things up the food chain to talk to someone who make the short sale happen, we were bluntly told, “Don’t try to talk to a supervisor – the decision making process stops here – if you try to go around us, we will blacklist you on any further transactions you bring to us.” Nice.
And you guessed it – it went on the market as an REO … LOWER than our accepted offer. When this happens I’m reminded of the old radio show, The Shadow, where actor Frank Readick Jr., intoned “Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men …”
Overall, our short sales are successes – we have a very high success rate.
I think it all depends. “The bank” after all is a bureaucracy of people working on a salary. Even though the bank itself might want to negotiate a short sale the people working for the bank most likely don’t care. They go through their daily checklist and do what they are told. That is why working with the bank can sometimes be such a tedious and frustrating process. It is not always the same person making decisions on the same property. Often, what ends up happening is not in the best interest of “the bank”.
I can echo what Carl has written. He certainly addresses quite effectively most of the questions that are out there regarding foreclosures. As we do a lot of listings for one of our local banks, I can add he is right-on regarding offers. Banks do price to market and condition, and – they will reject low-ball offers. I might add one more thing – while banks find cash-offers attractive, they will not heavily discount on price just because an offer is cash. We get a lot of buyers saying “but it is a cash offer”, and wonder why the bank rejects an offer at 70% of list price. Cash is nice – but not king here! Thanks for an excellent article.
Thank you for a great post! Could I have permission to put the article on my blog and facebook page? Of course, I would give credit to Mr. Medford.
There are always exceptions to the “rules” and this is note-worthy. A person who takes the time and does the research can actually get very lucrative deals working directly with banks on foreclosed properties. I purchased a foreclosed property as 57% assessed value and close in 3 weeks.
There are always exceptions to the “rules” and this is note-worthy. A person who takes the time and does the research can actually get very lucrative deals working directly with banks on foreclosed properties. I purchased a foreclosed property as 57% assessed value and closed in 3 weeks.
Seriously #4 come on. We are working very hard in our association to disqualify SS’s & foreclosures for comparable sales. Why should everyone in a given area be penalized for bad choices made by some people. Appraisers should be challenged to use every bit of knowledge in their tool kit to come up with a reasonable fair market opinion of value, not just distressed comps.It’s hard enough to get a good appraisal without them looking for ways to lower values.We are now seeing multiple offers which indicates an improving market and stability and should reflect an increase in value in desirable areas. Use the narrative approach. Mr. Medford we are not getting over it or anything, that’s too easy. We are moving on with an eye on a brighter future
@Jeff:
You state: “Why should everyone in a given area be penalized for bad choices made by some people.”
Because that’s the reality of life. Poor decisions made by some definitely affect others. I recently read about a train wreck caused by an engineer who was apparently texting – talk about a bad choice – and it definitely affected those who were killed. No matter the skill of those who arrived on the scene to help, the damage had been done and cause and effect took its toll.
You also state: “We are now seeing multiple offers which indicates an improving market and stability and should reflect an increase in value in desirable areas.”
Agree – we’re seeing that here as well. And it’s a welcome change, because it means that appraisers will soon have a boatload of better comps to work with. In the meantime, they have to use what actually exists – neither you nor I want appraisers making up data out of thin air. And keep in mind that every appraisal is reviewed by the lender – if it is not in keeping with real and current neighborhood values, it will get kicked back for a redo.
Fair? No. Good for those who’ve done everything right? Not a chance.
But very, very real.
This post might be helpful:
People Who Did EVERYTHING Right … (Get Screwed)
http://www.trulia.com/blog/carl_medford/2009/02/people_who_did_everythin
This is a great article Carl!
Well said, and very precise with this useful information. Thanks for taking the time to get it done and shared with us all!
All real estate is local. I’m an agent in Houston specializing in the inner-city market. We have few forclosures here. Many that do come up, are usually in disrepair, poorly constructed or updated, or have been purposely vandalized. I’ve also noticed that many seem to sell at or near normal values because many “investors” think that since it is a forclosure, then it must be a bargain. This is not true of all of them of course. One really big issue has been the national media screaming that the sky is falling, without qualifying that it is not falling everywhere. We get buyers thinking that they are going to get homes at 50 cents on the dollar. I have to remind them that the are in the wrong state for this to happen. During the really bad times, prices fell about 15-20% in some areas, but this was due almost exclusively to the time that homes took to sell, not forclosures. Prices are already starting to rise again.
Carl I will have to agree with you on all your points. If I could just get my buyers to understand these myths. Thx again. Brad http://www.orange-county-dreamhomes.com